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十几年来，广州设计周对于中国设计与世界领先设计思索的交流对话从未停止，IDD世界领先设计对话以对话巨匠、发掘新声、臻选杰作三大内容版块构建年度运营体系，由此推动世界领先设计与中国设计之间的对话交流和发展。
对话巨匠，追随领先
Dialoguing With Masters To Follow The Leading
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孟也
中国 | China
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对话巨匠：走进孟也空间创意设计事务所 · 访谈正片
孟也 Ye Meng
空间设计师、孟也空间创意设计事务所设计总监、WHYGARDEN家居品牌创始人
Space designer, design director of Mengye Design Studio, founder of home decor brand WHYGARDEN
孟也的设计风格多变，各个作品都恰到好处的体践行了设计对“美”的诠释，曾经在全国各地斩获无数空间设计大奖。
孟也设计团队致力于为中国精英阶层定制独有的高端住宅空间，主张设计气质的多变及创新，在全国多地完成了众多高端私人住宅及地产设计项目。多年来，因完成国内众多一线明星私人住宅而被誉为明星御用设计师，更铸就了孟也设计团队在空间设计领域里的卓越成绩。
私宅设计（二月） Private villa design （Er Yue）
如何不断蜕变和保持领先？
今年是我从业 30 年。这 30 年的个人历程正好参与和经历了中国发展最快这 30 年，也是室内设计行业真正有商业行为的开端。最早的时候其实叫美术装潢，那时候我们 94 年刚刚毕业，我遇到的同行基本上都是电影制片厂的布景道具专业，就没有室内设计专业的人才。比起那帮老大哥来，我刚毕业就是这个专业的人才了。大概 2006 年 2007 年来到北京后，那个时候我就告诉自己，一定要给自己一个重新的，谁也不认识的全新过程。从那以后开始，包括我自己和公司、团队在这十几年间，每年肯定都是上一个台阶。到现在，不论是事业上，成长上、收入上、知名度上，还有作品美誉度的收获上，还有市场收获上，每一年都是一个增长。
This year marks my 30th year in the industry. These 30 years of personal career development journey coincide with the participation and experience of the fastest growing 30 years in China, and it is also the beginning of real commercial activities in the interior design industry. At the beginning, it was actually called art decoration, when we had just graduated in 1994, and the peers I met were basically set design in film studios, and there were no interior design professionals. Compared to those big brothers, I was among the first group of graduats from this major. After I came to Beijing in 2006, I told myself at that time that I must start fresh, a clean slate. Since then, including myself, the company, and the team in the past 16 years, every year we have definitely been going up a level. Up to now, whether it is career, growth, income, popularity, as well as the fruit of the reputation of the work, every year there is a significant increase.
私宅设计 Private villa design
如何把握住客户和机会？疫情后再出发的成功的秘诀？
那时候面对眼前的每一个客户，我们其实都是希望努力地给TA些什么。我记得非常清楚一件事，十几年前当时一个住在高级别墅庄园里的一个客户，那时候他挺年轻，我也很年轻，谈了整整两天，最后他很感慨地对我说：“一个没有住过别墅的设计师来设计别墅是多么艰难。” 当时把我给恨的啊，因为是初来乍到来北京第一年，所以不能用很厚的（专业）积累或者名气来说服对方，当时就要接受这是个过程（的现实)。所以现在我觉得年轻人，不论是在哪一层（行业地位），在到达最高层之前都没有那么简单。
At that time, we did almost everything try to impress every customer in front of us. I remember very clearly one thing, more than ten years ago, a client who lived in a high-end villa and he wanted to hired us to design the villa for him. He was very young at that time and so was I. We talked for two whole days and finally he said with a sigh: "How difficult it is for a designer who has not lived in a villa to design a villa..." At that time, I hated hearing it, because it was the first year of arriving in Beijing, so I couldn't convince him with a built local portofolio, word of mouth reputation or fame, I had to accept that this was a process. So now when I think back, I know for a fact that it is never easy or simple for young people to reach the top.
有些时候你不得不承认是机遇或者是运气（的原因），这是肯定有的。每个人成长一定是抓住运气，而且是所有在你面前的机会，你要不计代价地把它抓到。如果最好的结果是100%，你每一件事都付出巨大的努力，能达到最好结果的80%就不错了，有时候甚至努力 120% 才能拿到这 80%，这也有可能发生。所以我认为120%的努力就是应该的，最简单的（成功方法）就是抓住运气努力做，努力做好每一个项目。其次，要让自己做的项目去说话，不断地告诉身边的人，“我不光有两下子，我还有七、八下子......。”在（别人看到你的出手的功夫）三下子，四下子，到五下子的时候，有一批人就自动投降了。然后到 六、七、八 甚至十下子的时候，基本上大家都认为非你莫属了。
Sometimes you have to admit success is because of luck. Anyone who want to succeed must seize all the opportunities in front of you, to grab it at any cost. If the best result is 100%, and you put into everything try to get it, it is likely to achieve 80% of the best result, and sometimes even 120% of effort will get this 80%. This can also happen. So I think 120% effort is normal and it also is the easiest way to succeed, to create your own luck. Secondly, let your projects speak for yourself. It shows to the world "Not only can I do this, I can also do much more.... " Usually after a few rounds of competition, a group of people automatically surrenders. And then when it comes to six, seven, eight, or even ten rounds, basically everybody thinks it must be you.
其实就是这样一个不断挑战自己的过程，去证明自己的价值。如果能做到极致和最好的时候，不用去管别人，就放手去做到极致和最好，然后突然有一天发现你不知不觉地甩掉一批人，得到了一片认可。所有的机会就来源于你上一次的努力，之后就是怎样利用现在的机会再去实现你下一个作品。
In fact, it is always a process of constantly challenging yourself to prove your value. If you can do the ultimate and the best, just focus on yourself and do just that, then suddenly one day you will find that you unknowingly ahead of a lot of people. All opportunities come from your last effort, and make the best of the current opportunity to realize your next great work.
样板间设计赏析 Mock-up Room Design
选择是大于努力的，你怎么判断哪些机会要抓住，哪些机会要放空？
Some say making the right choice is more important than hard work. How do you decide which one is the opportunity?
This is actually quite simple, as long as the opportunity is in line with your goals, try to seize it all. In this process, you will find that there are some projects that you can't control then you can drop it. In the beginning, we treat every project as a potential for successful shining case. In the end, it would be lucky to have one or two a year that reach the level we hoped. So you must try to grasp all opportunities and then categorize and treat them in customized ways. For example, some projects are service-oriented and must be done well; others will definitely develop into something else or achieve a different level in the future, which needs to coordinate with the client for future exposure and so on.
90后设计师占你们团队的比例是怎样的？他们有什么特点？对他们有什么建议？
It's definitely more than half of the staff. We used to have no more than 25 people, now we have 33 or 34 people, because in the past two years we have developed the furniture department.
Young designers from social recruitment have different concepts of application of labour law and the care from their families is pretty specific too. Nowadays their parents teach their children: "After all, take care of your body and don't overwork or exhaust yourself too much." The designers who stayed in our company have a different understanding of how to approach their career. So we get along in a relatively simple way (with less adminstrative consideration). It's important to do interesting to work with us, and the projects themselves are interesting. It is never boring, no design-streamline like machine. What our team values most is to make the design interesting, don't repeat what you have done before, we do push the designers to go further like thinking about it again in a different angle. Some of my team members have been following with me for three years now, and I am always evolving and he always finds it interesting. In terms of team management, our team has basically cultivated such a working state over the years, that is, working without top management but self management. That is why we need self-disciplined, self-managed, then results in self-growth. No one really teaches you hand-in-hand, they all find their place in this (active learning) atmosphere. It is important for young designers to show that they are not slacking off in the pursuit of innovative design ideas and they are always evolving.
三个字概括家具产品线的特点或者定位是什么？
First word will be "freedom". Set design itself free from all the restraints. That is the starting goal. Secondly, "fresh". No one has seen it before, we set ourselves towards great challenges here before and everyone has seen a lot of well-designed or designer furniture or decoration before, we need to go beyond the known. Last but not least, volume. It needs to be able to produce and sell in huge quantities.
WHYGARDEN 家居系列
WHYGARDEN Home Collection
如何持续地、高效地带领团队？
In essense, I do all the concept design of all the projects, we are not a design company, we are a design studio. There is a clear division of the type of tasks and everyone needs to be specialized in that particular area. One type is a creative young assistant, they help me complete the aesthetic part; The other type will take care of project execution, which requires a practical and experienced designer; Last but not least, a group of designers will take care of the drawings and renderings. itself might be relatively less creative, but it is also necessary to constantly study the development in the industry, not limited by drawing. They need to use their brains on their shoulders to think about why they do this, and every six months there must be some growth, going deeper in the industry and learning aesthetical trends, etc. With a rendering or drawing we need to show is an atmosphere, after achieving that, the designer will have a sense of pride and accomplishment. In this way, the whole team (management) is very simple, everyone motivates themselves in this way, and everyone has the same and clear criteria and goals to judge of our work: "Is design good-looking and why? ”. Because we need to achieve beauty more than skin deep. Everyone understands what level of aesthetics and context of space we aim for. The team will need to bring their specialty for building that atmosphere.
我觉得（带团队）没有秘诀，我说实话就是对小伙伴们好一点。所以我们没有重复枯燥的工作，那这个最抹杀（创造力），是不可想象的。然后我们（办公）环境也相对来说比较轻松，上班的节奏也相对轻松，大家就没有任何理由在追逐理想这条路上去偷懒。
I don't think there's a secret [to leading a successful team], we are honestly treating my team well. We don't repeat work I think that kills creativity effectively and it is almost unthinkable for me. Then our office culture is relatively relaxed, and the pace of work is relatively self-determined, because there is no reason for anyone in our team to be lazy on the road of chasing the next design achievement.
您对未来5到10年会有什么样的计划和愿景？
The vision for the future is to diversify the types of our space design. We are trying to do some private hotel projects, we hope to jump out of residential type of projects, to emphasize more public project which can be experienced by more people. Also we hope to bring our diversified creativity and value-adding service to different business types. So I think this phase of our studio development can also be called the "experimental phase". What it means is that I would jump to the opportunity for the clients who would like to go for the extra mile and challenging requirements on creativity to the point that it is almost "a tortune" to most designers.
I like this type of experimental projects the most. If a client says, "I don't want to torture anyone, because I have paid all the rent of the space and I have to open it in three months." then he or she is not my ideal client.
There are many other designers who can get this done fast. We are now a stable studio with relatively steady and mature design projects from sectors like high-end private villa interior design and luxury real estate design. In fact, there are some remaining creativity, which are very suitable for developing with interesting clients who are willing to push the boundary.
实验性质的私人会所设计
Experimental design of private clubhouse
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